Roland TD-50X Series | Brand new flagship electronic drums for 2021

roland td-50x series v-drums

Roland has just announced their brand new flagship electronic drums. The Roland TD-50X Series. Roland hasn’t released a new flagship since the launch of the TD-50 back in 2016. 

Let’s see what is new and what has changed with the Roland TD-50X Series. 

New features on the Roland TD-50X Series

Roland V-Drums are consistently pushing the boundaries of what is possible with electronic drums. The triggering is sublime and then modules are packed full of features. 

Even though this is the case, Roland has once again outdone themselves with the TD-50X. 

The TD-50X features updates to the module, new sounds, a brand new set of digital hi-hats and thinner more realistic crash pads.

Looking for product highlights? Check out our web story for the Roland TD-50X.

TD-50X module updates

The new flagship module features Roland’s Prismatic Sound Modeling and PureAcoustic Ambience technologies as well as multiple options for getting your sound out of the module.

roland td-50x module

Prismatic Sounds Modeling

The Prismatic Sound Modeling is in short the way Roland is using multiple samples to create the sound you hear when you play. So when you hit a pad, based on your dynamics and location hit on the pad, the module is combining samples to give you the most accurate sound. 

This means that everything from ghost notes to loud and intense playing will have a distinct voice based on how you play.

The modelling also allows you to change the sound of the drum by changing the tuning and muffling. Or you can go a step further creating a kit from the ground up. Change the shell depth, heads, cymbal characteristics and much more.

PureAcoustic Ambience technology

Roland’s PureAcoustic Ambience technology allows you to take the sounds within the module and customise them to your taste. 

You can change the location of the mic in relationship to the drum, change the EQ, compression, reverb and other effects. 

This makes it possible for you to take the 900 onboard sounds and create almost unlimited combinations with these changes. 

Getting audio out of the module

If you are performing live there are 10 direct outputs from the module. The audio can be sent out with or without effects whilst being at a balanced volume. This means that you can control the faders for your mix without affecting your audio engineer.

If you are in a studio you can connect via USB and send up to 32 simultaneous channels of audio plus MIDI data. 

Add your sounds

If you want even more sounds on the module you can add your WAV samples via an SD Card on the side of the module.

Full specification

  • Dimensions: 13 (W) x 10-1/16 (D) x 4-11/16 (H) inches
  • Presets: 100
  • Sounds: Over 900
  • Number of User Samples: 500 Max
  • Maximum Note Storage: 40,000 (approx)
  • Recording Method: Realtime
  • Display: LCD 256 x 80 dots
  • Trigger Activity Indicator: LED
  • Faders: 8
  • External Memory: SD Card
  • Trigger In: 1/4-inch TRS phone type
  • Digital Trigger In: USB A Type
  • Sampling Rate: 44.1kHz
  • Record and Playback: 32 Channels
  • Power Supply: AC 117 V, AC 220 V, AC 230 V, AC 240 V
  • Power Consumption: 30 W
  • Product Code: TD-50X

Brand new sounds

The Roland TD-50X module comes with 900 built-in sounds. This is 500 more than the previous TD-50 module. The TD-50X has space for 100 kits. The module comes with over 70 pre-configured kits from you. Each of which you can customise using all the modules features. The remaining slots are ready for you to build your own user kits up from the ground. 

These new sounds have been painstakingly recorded at world-class studios. These are the best sounding Roland V-Drums available.

Have a listen to the module sounds in this great demo by Roland.

VH-14D digital hi-hats

Roland has long been the leader when it has come to electronic hi-hats. With the VH-14D digital hi-hats, they have truly outdone themselves. These are the first digital hi-hats from Roland following the sucess of the PD-140DS digital snare and CY-18DR digital ride that come with the previous TD-50 kits. 

The VH-14D hi-hats feature some great new features previously not seen on Roland electronic hi-hats. These features are:

  • Positional sensing – each part of the hi-hat pad will produce a different sound based on where it is hit.
  • Touch cymbal muting – by placing your hand on the surface of the top pad you can mute the cymbals sound.
  • Grab cymbal muting – by grabbing both the hats closed with your hands, the cymbals will mute.
  • Enhanced foot dynamics – the sound on the cymbal is more reactive to the pressure you are applying to the hi-hat pedal. 

CY-16R-T crash cymbal pads

These new cymbal pads don’t feature the same extreme overhaul as the hi-hats but they have had some nice improvements. These pads feature multiple zones and grab muting like previous models but the main improvement is that these pads are 40% thinner giving them a more realistic playing feel.

The different Roland TD-50X Series V-Drum sets available

Roland has released a few new configurations of the TD-50X series kits so you can choose one that meets your tastes and budgets.

Roland TD-50KV2 V-Drums Electronic Drum Kit

This is the new flagship kit that features everything above plus four toms, a full-size bass drum, a digital snare and a digital ride. If you want the best electronic kit Roland has to offer, this is it.

Roland TD-50KV2 V-Drums Electronic Drum Kit

Full configuration:

  • Drum sound module: TD-50X x 1
  • Snare: PD-140DS x 1
  • Toms 1/2: PD-108-BC x 2
  • Toms 3/4: PD-128-BC x 2
  • Hi-hat: VH-14D x 1
  • Crash 1/Crash 2: CY-16R-T x 2
  • Ride: CY-18DR x 1
  • Kick: KD-180 x 1
  • Drum stand: MDS-STG2 x 1

Here is an in-depth look at the TD-50KV2 V-Drums from Roland.

Roland TD-50K2 V-Drums Electronic Drum Kit

This is essentially the budget version in the TD-50X series. You are still getting the TD-50X module, all the digital cymbals and one of the new crashes. To reduce the price you are getting just 3 toms, one 14″ crash pad, a smaller bass drum and a plastic rack. 

Since this kit still has the module and the digital pads it will still sound and play incredibly well.

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Full configuration

  • Drum sound module: TD-50X x 1
  • Snare: PD-140DS x 1
  • Toms 1/2/3: PDx-100 x 3
  • Hi-hat: VH-14D x 1
  • Crash 1: CY-14C-T x 1
  • Crash 2: CY-16R-T x 1
  • Ride: CY-18DR x 1
  • Kick: KD-140 x 1
  • Drum stand: MDS-GND2 x 1

Roland VAD-706 V-Drums Acoustic Design Drum Kit

Roland has also launched a new flagship acoustic look set featuring the TD-50X module. These kits feature all the digital pads, two of the new crash cymbals, 10″, 12″ and 14″ toms and a 22″ bass drum.

These kits are available in 4 stunning finishes:

  • Pearl White
  • Gloss Cherry
  • Gloss Ebony
  • Gloss Natural
Roland VAD-706 V-Drums Acoustic Design Drum Kit

It is great to see Roland taking the acoustic look electronic kit segment more seriously. Roland has been falling behind what some companies have been manufacturing but this truly puts them back on top.

Full configuration

  • Drum sound module: TD-50X x 1
  • Snare: PD-140DS x 1
  • Tom 1: PDA100 x 1
  • Tom 2: PDA120 x 1
  • Tom 3: PDA140F x 1
  • Hi-hat: VH-14D x 1
  • Crash 1/Crash 2: CY-16R-T x 2
  • Ride: CY-18DR x 1
  • Kick: KD-222 x 1
  • Drum stand: DTS-30S x 1

Can I upgrade my existing TD-50 module?

Yes, you can! The TD-50 already features a third digital pad input that can be used for the new digital hi-hats. The upgrade offered by Roland will update your module with the capacity to support the new digital hi-hat, all the new sounds and kits as well as the ability to pass 32 audio channels via USB. 

The cost to upgrade your existing TD-50 module to the TD-50X software is $199. To do this you will need to join the Roland Cloud. As a bonus, you will also receive a free year of Roland Cloud membership where you can access even more kits and samples.

Also, bear in mind you will have to purchase the new VH-14D hi-hats for the full benefits. 

Our thoughts on the Roland TD-50X Series

Roland has long produced the best electronic kits and they are showing no signs of slowing down. The accuracy and depth of triggering they have reached are astounding and incredibly impressive.

Many peoples gripes with Roland kits has been the quality of the audio samples on the module. With the TD-50X it does feel like there has been a big leap forward, not just in the quality but also with the range. 

There isn’t anything not to like with these kits except the price. Roland flagship products have always been expensive and these are no different. For most drummers, these kits will be out of their price range.  

What would we like to see next from Roland?

Roland and still leading the way with their trigger accuracy and pads. It would be great to see them continue the rollout of the digital pads across the rest of the drum kit. 

The next thing I would love to see from Roland is a touch screen module. The GEWA G9 Workstation (AKA module) is a fresh experience and I think a touchscreen for electric drum modules makes sense. It can be more intuitive for users and make more complex modifications simpler.

The final thing we would like to see is something else GEWA is leading the way on. Wifi connectivity built into th e module with an online resource for downloading extra samples. GEWA is doing a great job and this seems like a natural next step.

Roland is doing a fantastic job but it would be great to see a brand next module with some brand next features. As much as we love the TD-50X Series, it does feel like a half step rather than a brand new product.

We can’t wait to see what Roland release in the next few years.

Electronic Drum Kit Splash Cymbal Pads | Which are the best?

electronic drum kit splash cymbal pad

Electronic drum kit splash cymbal pads are slowly starting to enter the market. As electronic drums have grown in popularity drummers are becoming accustomed to electronic pads that have the same look of the acoustic counterparts. Splash cymbals are no exception to this rule.

Look at how far electronic drums have comes since the octagon pads of the 1980s to the electronic drums of today. They are uncomparable. 

Toms, snare, bass drums, hi-hats, rides and crash pads are commonplace on electric drum kits. It is now time for effect cymbals like electronic china cymbal pads and electronic splash cymbal pads to have their turn.

Why would you want an electronic drum kit splash cymbal pad?

In reality, you don’t need one. On an electronic drum kit, any pad can be programmed to play any sound. So a crash cymbal pad can be used as a splash if you wanted. Even though this is the case, visually they don’t do the job. 

One of the reasons drummers play is because of the striking beauty of a drum kit. Each one is unique and has a presence. For many years electronic drum kits haven’t had the same impact but in the past 10 years, they have come leaps and bounds. An electronic drum kit today can be just as cool as an acoustic one. 

Even with all this progress, some elements have been missing. Such as the beloved splash cymbal. That being said, electronic drum kit splash cymbal pads are starting to become available though and we are happy to see this. 

What electric splash cymbals are available currently?

Let’s take a look at the electronic splash cymbal pads currently available on the market. We will take you through all the splash pads we are aware of and what are thoughts are. 

Realistic looking splash pads

Triggera D11 11″ Splash Cymbal Pad

Triggera D11 11" Splash Cymbal Pad

This 11″ splash pad from Triggera is a great option for players not wanting to spend a lot of money. At only £42, that is incredibly cheap for a cymbal pad. This pad only has one zone, for a splash cymbal, this isn’t an issue as a splash cymbal is only used for that one sound. 

It is worth noting that it can’t be chocked though. If this is something you often do with your splashes these might not be the option for you. 

ProsCons
Great priceCan’t choke the sound
Looks like a splash cymbalIs a fairly loud pad

The Triggera splash pad is currently available for order on Thomann. Check it out below.

ATV aDrums Artist Series Splash Cymbals

ATV aDrums Artist Series Splash Cymbals

ATV is leading the way as far as the selection of cymbal pads available. Splashes are no exception to this. Currently, ATV has two different size splash pads available. A 10″ and 12″ version. 

The splash cymbals feature three zones, bow/ edge/ bell. ATV also paid particular attention to how the cymbals feel to try and replicate acoustic cymbals as closely as possible. 

The ATV splash pads are great but they are pricey. 

ProsCons
Looks greatExpensive
Natural feel pad
3 zone pad

The ATV splash pad are currently available on Thomann and Gear4music. Check out the links below.

Alternative pads that can be used as splashes

So as you can see the range of splash cymbal pads is currently very limited. Here are a couple of smaller cymbal pads that could be used as a splash but don’t have the full aesthetic appeal.

Roland CY-5 Dual Trigger Cymbal

There is no doubt about it, Roland makes great electronic drums. They don’t sell a proper “splash pad” but they do offer a smaller 12″ pad that can be used as one. 

Out of the alternative pads featured the CY-5 is the only pad that has two zones and choking capabilities. 

The Roland CY-5 pad is available from Thomann and Gear4music.

Millenium MPS-200 Mono Cymbal Pad

This offering from Thomann is a great option for a drummer on a budget. It is a single zone pad and is 12″ in size. Much like the Roland pad, it doesn’t look like a splash but is the right kind of size.

The Millenium pad is currently available at Thomann.

Digital Drums Electronic Cymbal Pad

This pad from Digital Drums is extremely similar to that of the Millenium pad but is 10″ rather than 12″. Another great option for drummers on a budget at only £24.99.

The Digital Drums Pads is currently available at Gear4music.

Our thoughts

It is great to see electronic splash cymbal pads coming to the market. It is still early days though and the choices are limited. My top pick would have to be the ATV splashes, they look great and have 3 zones. If you have the money, this is the one to get.

Hopefully, over the next few years, we will see more manufacturers introducing their own splash cymbal pads to the market. 

Roland TD-07KV V-Drums Electronic Drum kit | The ultimate guide

roland td-07kv v-drums electronic drum kit

There is no doubt about it, Roland is the leader in electronic drum kits and has been for quite a while. The Roland TD-07KV is no exception to this rule. 

The Roland TD-07KV is trying to fill a spot in its electronic kit line up, the $1000 (£850, €1000) price point. This has been a week spot for Roland for a while. They have had a good entry option with the TD-1K and the top end with the TD-50KVX. $1000 is a common budget for drummers looking to purchase an electronic kit making this is a key pricepoint to get correct. 

Let’s see if Roland has been able to achieve this with the TD-07KV.

Who is the Roland TD-07KV V-Drums Electronic kit for?

The Roland TD-07KV is aimed at beginner to intermediate level players that aren’t wanting to break the bank. It isn’t the cheapest mesh head kit offered by Roland but it is the cheapest that comes with a more powerful module that allows you to customise your sound. 

If you are looking for an electric drum kit to gig with this is a solid offering but it is best suited to being used at home for practising. 

What pads are in the Roland TD-07KV?

A lot of the pads you will find on the Roland TD-07KV are similar to that of the Roland TD-1DMK. There are a couple of nice upgrades though, you get slightly larger cymbal pads and a better bass drum pad with a more realistic feel.

So what do you get:

  • Kick: KD-10
  • Snare: PDX-8 (8″ pad with 2 zones, head and rim)
  • Hi-hat: CY-5
  • Hi-hat Control Pedal: detects open, closed and half-open strokes
  • Tom: PDX-6A x 3 (6.5″ pad with 2 zones, head and rim)
  • Crash: CY-8 (12″ pad with 2 zones, body and edge. Can also be choked)
  • Ride: CY-8 (12″ pad with 2 zones, body and edge. Can also be choked)

Overall with the Roland TD-07KV V-Drums, you are getting a good range of pads. The highlight of the kit is the incredible Roland mesh heads. These offer accurate triggering whilst giving a great feel. The mesh heads can be tuned up or down to give a response of your liking. For example, crank up the toms and lower the floor tom for a more realist feel. 

The only downside we can see holding back this kit is the ride cymbal. It would have been great to see this come with a 3 zone pad. As the bell is such a key part of a ride cymbals sound, it does take you out of the zone when you have to hit the edge of a cymbal to trigger that sound.

If you do get this kit and want to upgrade the ride cymbal we recommend having a look at the Roland CY-13R V-Cymbal.

What sounds are in the Roland TD-07KV?

Out of the box, the Roland TD-07KV includes 25 preset kits and 143 instruments. There are also 25 slots for you to configure your own drum kits in the module.

Here is a great video from drum-tec demoing all the preset kits.

The Roland TD-07KV also offers deep editing tools to customise any sound to how you want it. EQ, ambience, and 30 multi-effects. Using these gives you immense control over the sounds in the module allowing you to make them sound exactly how you want. When it comes to in module sound editing, Roland is leading the pack. 

What can the Roland TD-07KV module do?

Roland TD-07KV Module

On top of the incredible sounds on the Roland TD-07KV module, there are also a few more interesting features to look at. The module delivers an astounding amount of features that aren’t easy to come by at this price point. 

Integrated Bluetooth

Do you often play along with songs while practising? Sure you do! The TD-07KV makes this a breeze with its built-in Bluetooth. Stream music straight from your phone, tablet or Bluetooth supported device straight into the module.

Built-in metronome 

It comes with a drummer’s best friend. A built-in metronome. You can adjust the tempo, time signature, note value, and click tone. 

Onboard coach

Looking for some new ways to improve your playing? Why not try the built-in coach? Five onboard coaching functions, including time check, quiet count, and change-up are ready to help you improve your playing. 

Connect it to your computer via USB

There are a couple of things you can do with the USB. You can either:

  1. Record the audio of your playing
  2. Use the MIDI in a DAW to access more sounds. A common one is hooking up the kit to EZDrummer via a DAW. It sounds great and isn’t too complicated to set up when you have done it a couple of times. 

Where can I buy a Roland TD-07KV V-Drums Electronic Drum Kit?

The Roland TD-07KV is available at almost every online music store or from your local drum shop.

If you are looking to order online, here are some of our favourite sellers.

OR Gear4music

Final thoughts

The Roland TD-07KV V-Drums Electronic Drum Kit certainly does seem to achieve most of what it set out to do. It has all of the incredible features and sounds you expect from a Roland mesh head kit but at the lower price point. 

The TD-07KV module shines but to achieve the $1000 price point, the cymbals pads have faced the cutbacks. I think this is the only downside of this kit. If a 3 zone ride was included this kit would be unfaultable. 

Overall, this is a great kit for someone looking at getting into drums or wanting an electric drum kit for extra practice. 

Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module | Drum kit recording made easy

yamaha ead10 drum module

For years drummers have wanted to record themselves playing the drums. Recording video has gotten easier as phones have improved but the audio has always been tricky. This is especially the case when on a budget and without a huge a lot of recording knowledge. Luckily you no longer have to worry as this is where the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module comes in. 

What is the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module?

The Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module is exactly as it says on the tin. It is a drum module that allows you to record your entire acoustic drum kit using one handy sensor that is then plugged into the main drum module. From there you can use the audio capture for live performances or recording your acoustic drums audio.

How does the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module work?

The best thing about the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module is its simplicity. You just need to plug it in and it does all the work for you. There are two components to the EAD10. 

The EAD10 Sensor

This is the bit that you need to connect to your drum kit. Ideally, you want this to be connected to your bass drum so that it can pick up a high-quality stereo image of your entire kit. This sensor is connected to the main module with a cable.

The EAD10 Module

This is where the magic happens. The module transforms the audio picked up by the sensor into a great recording of your acoustic drum kit. From here you can do a couple of things to transform your sound using the module.

  • Volumes
  • Reverb
  • Built-in effects
  • Trigger your drums

What are the main uses for the Yamaha EAD10?

The EAD10 has been designed to be flexible for multiple uses. Therefore there are a fair few things you can do.

Plugin your headphones and use it as a module

One of my favourite things about electronic drum kits is that you can change the sounds at the touch of the button. It keeps practising fresh and fun. You can now do that on your acoustic kit with the Yahama EAD10. Just plug in your headphones as adjust your sound on the fly.

Mic up your drums at live gigs

The EAD10 can just as easily be plugged into a PA system for a high-quality live sound. If we are going, to be honest, if you are touring professionally you will more than likely have a sound guy with a full set of mics. This isn’t designed for that. Think more cover band that needs a little bit more volume or mix control at slightly larger gigs.

Record your drums onto your computer

Either using a USB flash drive (for up to 90 minutes of audio) or directly into your computer with a USB cable you can do record your drum audio to your computer. This allows you to use DAW (digital audio workstation) to process the sound further as you would when recording drums with mics. The audio recorded can also be used to be placed on the latest drum covers you have been making for YouTube.

Make videos with the Yamaha Rec’n’Share app

Using the Rec’n’Share app you can record you EAD10 audio and phone video in one go. This makes it easy to record drum videos with high-quality audio on the fly.

What sound quality can I expect to get when recording with the EAD10?

We have to be honest, the sounds quality is extremely impressive for something at this price and simple to use. Because of this reason, it has become popular among YouTube content creators. Here are a couple of examples of drummers recording with the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module.

ZackGrooves drums always sound on point.

And El Estepario Siberiano is just flawless. It is hard to believe his kit isn’t fully mic’d.

It is incredible how good the recordings sound. It is a clear capture of the drum sounds without any distortion or over processing. Extremely impressive.

Where can I buy the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module?

You can get the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module from most online drum retailers or your local drum shop. If you are ordering online here are some of our top picks. 

Or we also recommend

Frequently asked questions

Can you add extra triggers to the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module?

You sure can! You can have a total of 6 pads and triggers including the 1 built-in to the sensor placed on your kit. This gives you the flexibility to create a fully hybrid drum kit with just the EAD10.

Can I use a Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module with a DAW?

Yes, you can. Just like most instrument the audio can be imported into a DAW such a ProTools, Cubase, Ableton Live, GarageBand or any others.

Can I use the Yamaha EAD10 on a drum kit with mesh heads?

If you use triggers on the drums they can be plugged into the EAD10. You can then choose the drum sounds you want from the module while the cymbals are picked up through the EAD10 sensor. 

Our thoughts

If you are looking for a way to record your acoustic drums without breaking the bank, this is the best option currently on the market. From under £400 ($500) there is nothing that delivers the simplicity of use and number of features as the EAD10. 

It is great to see Yamaha innovating and creating a truly great product for drummers. We highly recommend the Yamaha EAD10 Drum Module. 

Electronic Drum Kit China Cymbal Pads | Which is the best?

electronic drum kit china cymbal pads

Electronic drum kits are becoming more sophisticated and closer to acoustic drum kits every year. This is great news for drummers wanting to get in some practice at lower volumes. That being said, the selection of electronic drum kit china cymbal pads compared to traditional cymbals is lacking.

Luckily things are changing and some great electronic china cymbal pads are being released. Let’s have a look at some of the best ones currently available on the market.

Why would I want electronic drum kit china cymbal pads?

In short, you do not need pads to be shaped in a certain way to produce a certain sound. That is one of the beauties of electric drum kits. Any pad, no matter the shape, can make whatever noise you program.

This doesn’t take away the desire to have an electronic drum kit that looks like an acoustic one though. The ability to trigger acoustic drums accurately is now common but the cymbals have been neglected a bit. We have pulled together a collection of electronic drum kit china cymbal pads you can buy today.

Electronic drum kit china cymbal pads currently available

Triggera D14 14″ China Cymbal Pad

Triggera china cymbal pad

This is a great looking china pad that fulfils the visual requirements. The only issue you may have is with the size at just 14″. It is a one-zone pad, this isn’t an issue as acoustic chinas only really have one sound. Best of all, it is well priced. At the time of writing, you can pick this cymbal up from Thomann for just £56 ($75).

ATV aDrums Artist series 17″ “China” cymbal

ATV electric china cymbal pad

Now, this is a truly amazing looking china pad from ATV. At 17″ this comes the closest to a full-size acoustic china cymbal. These cymbals aren’t cheap though at around £400 ($545). We have also had issues trying to find suppliers with available stock.

Jobeky Low Volume “Real Feel” Electronic Dual Zone “China” Cymbal

Jobeky electric china cymbal

Technically this isn’t an electronic cymbal pad but we thought it was worth a mention. This is a hybrid of a low volume cymbal crossed with a triggering that can be plugged into your drum module. You get the real cymbal feel with the triggered sound. The main thing is that you will get the ping sound from the metal rather than the tap of a rubber cymbal pad. These cymbals also come in a range of finishes. You can see more on the Jobeky website.

Which electric china would we choose?

This all comes down to budget and taste, just like most things in drumming. Luckily the selection of electronic china cymbals covers all bases.

If you have a lower budget

Go for the Triggera china cymbal. The price can’t be beaten in the market currently.

If you have a higher budget

Go for the ATV china cymbal. It looks great and it is the closest china pad available to the real deal.

If you already have hybrid cymbals

Go for the Jobeky china. I love the Jobeky cymbals but the only thing that hesitates me is metal sound produced when hit. If you are trying to keep the volume down this could be an issue. Also, if you only have pads on your setup you might not want to bring hybrid cymbals into the equation. 

Final thoughts

It is great to see more innovation in the electronic drum kit cymbal space. Currently, the range of electronic china cymbals is still limited but we have high hopes for things progressing even further in the next couple of years. As more options become available we will make sure to update this page for you.